Wednesday, November 30, 2005
Redesigned Flight 93 memorial still an Islamo-fascist shrine
The redesigned flight 93 memorial, announced today, still contains all of the features that made it a terrorist memorial. Architect Paul Murdoch's infamous red crescent is still there, still planted with red maple trees, still inscribed in the exact same circle as before, and with the same two crescent tips still intact. Thus the crescent bisector defined by these crescent tips is also the same as before. It still points almost exactly to Mecca, making the crescent a Mihrab (an Islamic prayer station, where the believer faces into a crescent, towards Mecca, to perform his ritual prostrations). The design still incorporates a separate upper terrorist-memorial wall, centered precisely on the red-maple crescent [placing this upper section of wall, and the copse of trees that surround it, precisely in the location of the star on an Islamic flag]. There are still 44 translucent blocks on the flight path to the crash site, matching the total number of dead, instead of just the forty translucent blocks that are dedicated to the forty murdered Americans. Lastly, the Tower of Voices part of the memorial is still an Islamic prayer-time sundial.
Start with the red crescent. In the original design, the lower crescent tip was defined by the furthest extent of red maple trees on the bottom, while the upper crescent tip was defined by the end of the inner of two concrete walls, between which trees were planted.
Figure 1. Original design. The inner of the two concrete walls at top follows the circle that the crescent partly inscribes. The crescent tip has to be located on this circle, hence the end of the inner wall defines the upper crescent tip. The green bisector points almost exactly to Mecca (in the northeast direction, into the red crescent). Pixel accurate calculations of the bisector and its orientation towards Mecca here.
In the redesign, the lower tip remains exactly as before. So does the upper crescent tip (the end of the inner concrete wall). The change is that there are now additional trees planted beyond the end of the concrete wall that defines the upper crescent tip. These additional trees, planted along and out from the circle line, make it look like there is now a bowl instead of a crescent, but both original crescent tips are still in place.
Figure 2. The redesign. The topo lines (also visible in Figure 1) show that the both of the original crescent tips [the last tree on the circle at the bottom, and the inner concrete wall on top] are still in place exactly as before. Similarly for the copse of trees (in the position of the star on an Islamic flag) and the upper and lower sections of the memorial wall.
The filling in of some trees, in places that blend the original crescent into its surroundings, but do not affect its defining characteristics, is apparently the only change in the entire "redesign." All of the original features of the terrorist-memorial remain. The new graphics show that there is still the same separate upper section of memorial wall as before. Like the lower wall, it lies along the flight path to the crash site. Just as the lower wall contains 40 translucent blocks, dedicated to the forty murdered Americans, so too does the upper section of memorial wall contain translucent blocks.
Figure 3. From redesign announcement. Identical to original design. The upper section of memorial wall, seen to the right, is centered precisely on the large red maple crescent and contains additional translucent blocks, in addition to the forty on the lower wall that memorialize the murdered Americans.
In all, there are forty four translucent blocks emplaced along the flight path to the crash site, where forty Americans and four murderers died on September 11th. [Three are on the upper section of the memorial wall. One is the large glass block, at the upper crescent tip, that dedicates the entire site. See UPDATE below for details, or click the link immediately below.] Further, the fact that the crescent tips are unchanged means that the upper section of memorial wall is still bisected exactly by the Mecca line that bisects the large red crescent. (My earlier analysis of the upper-memorial wall and the 44 translucent blocks here.)
For anyone who wonders if it could be a coincidence that the original/new red maple crescent orients almost precisely on Mecca, note that the Tower of Voices section of the memorial also is apparently unchanged. The Tower of Voices is surrounded by several crescents of trees. Lines drawn across the tips of these crescents also point almost precisely towards Mecca.
Figure 4. Crescent array surrounds Tower of Voices. Line across crescent tips points almost precisely to Mecca. Calculations here.
This second orientation towards Mecca is necessary to the overall terrorist-memorial plan because the Tower of Voices is itself an Islamic sundial.
Figure 5. Islamic prayer times are determined by shadow length. When the center of the crescent at the top of the tower's shadow reaches the outer pink line, the time for Islamic afternoon prayers (Asr prayers) has arrived. Notice that the prayer line remains contained within the inner arc of trees. Afternoon prayer shadows for June 16th (the shortest day of the year) in red; July 16th (green); August 16th (blue); September 16th (yellow); October 16th (orange), mid-November (aqua); and mid-December (fuchsia). The mid-January Asr-prayer shadow will be the same as for mid-November. Mid-February will be the same as mid-October, etcetera. Prayer times and associated shadow calculations here.
When prayer time is reached, Pious Muslims will need to know the direction to Mecca: the direction they are supposed to face when they pray. The Tower's crescent array gives them this information. All they have to do is walk out to the open end of the crescent array and sight across the ends of the rows of trees (towards the northeast in figure 4).
Why does the shadow line in Figure 5 have a zig at the beginning of November? Look closely at the tower shadow depicted in Murdoch's graphic. You can see that there is a vertical shaft of sunlight making it through about the top fifth of the tower. This is because there is a slot cut in the top of the tower that early enough in the day allows light to pass through and reach the ground. Later in the day sunlight comes through at too steep an angle to reach the ground, being intercepted by the crescent arms of the crescent cross-section tower. As the months progress towards December and sunset gets earlier, afternoon prayer times start coming early enough that light through the slot is still reaching the ground when prayer time arrives. Thus the bottom of the top of the tower's shadow becomes the bottom of the slot, and this new lower tower height then becomes the tower height that is used to calculate prayer-time shadow length. From the tower graphics, it can be determined that this transition occurs near the beginning of November. Full analysis here.
Many of the terrorist-memorial elements of the Murdoch's design have this same half-hidden, half-obvious quality. (Litany here.) The redesign, blending the original red crescent into a larger circle of trees, but still retaining its defining points, fits this half-hidden terrorist-memorial theme exactly. I am surprised Murdoch did not blend the red crescent in from the outset. He might have gotten away with it. But we cannot let him get away with it now. Paul Murdoch's Flight 93 memorial, both originally and in its barely modified incarnation, is not just a bit of P.C. openness to Islamic symbolism. It is an explicit and thorough-going shrine to the terrorists. Murdoch is an Islamo-fascist. He is one of the enemy, trying to plant an Islamo-fascist memorial on the graves of our murdered heroes. No other explanation is possible. Please help stop this evil.
UPDATE: Thanks to so many people for stopping by. I’ll just add a bit of detail, for those who might like to look through the linked back-posts where I did my calculations, but would prefer a summary of the most critical details.
First, where are the four extra translucent blocks? You can see three of them in Figure 3, at the bottom end of the upper section of the memorial wall (the terrorist-memorial section of the memorial wall). Here is another view:
Figure 6. From the original Crescent of Embrace site-plan PDF's. Close up of gap between lower and upper memorial walls. Forty translucent blocks on left. Three on right.
The three blocks at the bottom of the terrorist memorial wall are inscribed with the date September 11th, 2001. That’s right: September 11th belongs to them.
The forty-fourth translucent block is the punch line. It sits further up the flight path. It is the large glass block, sitting at the point of the upper red-crescent tip, that dedicates the entire site:
Figure 7. Overlook extending through inner circle of crescent, with large glass block at end, dedicating the site. This graphic is from the original site-plan PDF’s, but the overlook seems to be unchanged in the new design. The announcement of the redesign includes an overlook graphic, but without a close up detail of the glass block.
LGF commenter aunursa corrects my assertion that the forty name-inscribed blocks are dedicated to forty murdered American heroes. Apparently two of the heroes were foreign. God bless ‘em.
I didn’t mean to mislead anyone by originally leaving the full explanation of the extra four translucent blocks out of this post. I was just trying to summarize my findings, while providing links to my full analyses. Far from thinking that the different shaped block at the upper crescent tip weakens the “44 deaths, 44 blocks” interpretation, my full analysis reveals the 44th block, tying the upper section of the memorial wall together with the upper tip of the large red maple crescent, to be perhaps the most diabolical feature of the entire structure: a keystone for The Keystone State. Feel free to redo my calculations . The large red maple crescent defined in the obvious way that I describe above is oriented 1.7 degrees off Mecca, enough to create plausible deniability perhaps. But when the large glass block is used to define the upper crescent tip, the crescent bisector points EXACTLY to Mecca, as close as the pixel resolution of the site-plan PDF’s can determine. (One pixel either way and the line points further away from Mecca.)
The near miss, followed by the precise Islamist resolution, is typical Murdoch, as seen with the Tower-sundial, which seems at first to be an accurate prayer-time sundial only for 8 months of the year (plausible deniability). Then you notice the slot cut in the spine of the Tower, which reduces the Tower-shadow height for the other 4 months, making for a 12 month accurate prayer-time sundial. It’s a good thing the Islamo-fascist who designed this thing is not making bombs, because he would probably be good at it.
On the subject of the Tower-sundial, there are a couple of details about my shadow calculations that people should know about if they are going to take my interpretations to heart. Shadow placement will vary with any change in either the geometry of the tower or the topography of the ground on which the Tower's shadow falls. From the information that is available, there are two points of possible deviation from my interpretation.
One is the slope of ground in the direction that the prayer-time shadows fall. On level ground, the prayer-time shadows are about 50 meters long. According to topo maps, the ground rises in the prayer-shadow direction about ten feet in fifty meters (graphics available about a third of the way down this post). The site-plan’s Tower Section detail shows the tower sitting on a built up mound ten feet tall. This would put it right where it needs to be to act as the shadow-caster (or gnomon) for an Islamic sundial: on level ground. Islamic afternoon prayers are supposed to commence when an object’s shadow is the length of its noon shadow, plus its height. This can only be determined on level ground.
The potential discrepancy here is that the Tower Section detail shows the trees in the prayer-shadow direction starting at the level of the ground at the bottom of the ten foot mound that the Tower sits on, instead of at the height of base of the Tower, as the topo maps indicate. It isn’t much of a discrepancy because the Tower Section detail is clearly in error on this point. Here is the offending graphic:
Figure 8. Shows trees in prayer-shadow direction (northeast) to grow from well below the base of Tower. Topo maps show they start at the same height as the base of the Tower, as a prayer-time sundial would require.
The second possible discrepancy is the depth of the slot cut in the spine of the Tower. The CAD generated shadow in Figure 5 shows the slot being 18% of the full tower height. This is contradicted by the Tower Section detail, which depicts the slot being 8% of the full tower height. The 18% figure leads to the jog in the prayer-shadow line depicted in my Figure 5. It is the exact depth of slot needed to keep the shadow line within the innermost crescent of trees, so that the inner crescent can serve as a consistent prayer-time indicator. Here is Figure 5 again:
Figure 5. You can see the CAD generated slot depth information in the Tower shadow.
Since the Tower Section detail was already misleading about the topography, that gives reason to favor the CAD generated slot information. Also, the CAD information is what one would expect to be the real information. It is the actual 3D design. The Tower Section detail, in contrast, is a prettied-up picture board.
My guess is that Murdoch and his co-conspirators (if he has any) realized that any competent sundialist would find them out if they put the accurate information in the Tower Section detail, so they phonied up the detail. I'm also guessing it was a slip that they let the CAD generated slot value into their presentation. Either that or hubris.
Still, there is a caveat here. It could turn out that the actual planned slot dimension is 8% of the Tower height and that the Tower array is "only" an accurate Islamic prayer-time sundial for 8 months of the year. The only way to determine for sure if the Tower-sundial is designed to be 12-month accurate is to get hold of Murdoch’s computers and take a look. The many terrorist memorializing features of Murdoch’s Flight 93 memorial give plenty of probable cause to believe that he has perpetrated a fraud against the Department of the Interior, which is legal grounds for subpoena of his hard drives. Tancredo, Norton, the ball is in your court.
Start with the red crescent. In the original design, the lower crescent tip was defined by the furthest extent of red maple trees on the bottom, while the upper crescent tip was defined by the end of the inner of two concrete walls, between which trees were planted.
Figure 1. Original design. The inner of the two concrete walls at top follows the circle that the crescent partly inscribes. The crescent tip has to be located on this circle, hence the end of the inner wall defines the upper crescent tip. The green bisector points almost exactly to Mecca (in the northeast direction, into the red crescent). Pixel accurate calculations of the bisector and its orientation towards Mecca here.
In the redesign, the lower tip remains exactly as before. So does the upper crescent tip (the end of the inner concrete wall). The change is that there are now additional trees planted beyond the end of the concrete wall that defines the upper crescent tip. These additional trees, planted along and out from the circle line, make it look like there is now a bowl instead of a crescent, but both original crescent tips are still in place.
Figure 2. The redesign. The topo lines (also visible in Figure 1) show that the both of the original crescent tips [the last tree on the circle at the bottom, and the inner concrete wall on top] are still in place exactly as before. Similarly for the copse of trees (in the position of the star on an Islamic flag) and the upper and lower sections of the memorial wall.
The filling in of some trees, in places that blend the original crescent into its surroundings, but do not affect its defining characteristics, is apparently the only change in the entire "redesign." All of the original features of the terrorist-memorial remain. The new graphics show that there is still the same separate upper section of memorial wall as before. Like the lower wall, it lies along the flight path to the crash site. Just as the lower wall contains 40 translucent blocks, dedicated to the forty murdered Americans, so too does the upper section of memorial wall contain translucent blocks.
Figure 3. From redesign announcement. Identical to original design. The upper section of memorial wall, seen to the right, is centered precisely on the large red maple crescent and contains additional translucent blocks, in addition to the forty on the lower wall that memorialize the murdered Americans.
In all, there are forty four translucent blocks emplaced along the flight path to the crash site, where forty Americans and four murderers died on September 11th. [Three are on the upper section of the memorial wall. One is the large glass block, at the upper crescent tip, that dedicates the entire site. See UPDATE below for details, or click the link immediately below.] Further, the fact that the crescent tips are unchanged means that the upper section of memorial wall is still bisected exactly by the Mecca line that bisects the large red crescent. (My earlier analysis of the upper-memorial wall and the 44 translucent blocks here.)
For anyone who wonders if it could be a coincidence that the original/new red maple crescent orients almost precisely on Mecca, note that the Tower of Voices section of the memorial also is apparently unchanged. The Tower of Voices is surrounded by several crescents of trees. Lines drawn across the tips of these crescents also point almost precisely towards Mecca.
Figure 4. Crescent array surrounds Tower of Voices. Line across crescent tips points almost precisely to Mecca. Calculations here.
This second orientation towards Mecca is necessary to the overall terrorist-memorial plan because the Tower of Voices is itself an Islamic sundial.
Figure 5. Islamic prayer times are determined by shadow length. When the center of the crescent at the top of the tower's shadow reaches the outer pink line, the time for Islamic afternoon prayers (Asr prayers) has arrived. Notice that the prayer line remains contained within the inner arc of trees. Afternoon prayer shadows for June 16th (the shortest day of the year) in red; July 16th (green); August 16th (blue); September 16th (yellow); October 16th (orange), mid-November (aqua); and mid-December (fuchsia). The mid-January Asr-prayer shadow will be the same as for mid-November. Mid-February will be the same as mid-October, etcetera. Prayer times and associated shadow calculations here.
When prayer time is reached, Pious Muslims will need to know the direction to Mecca: the direction they are supposed to face when they pray. The Tower's crescent array gives them this information. All they have to do is walk out to the open end of the crescent array and sight across the ends of the rows of trees (towards the northeast in figure 4).
Why does the shadow line in Figure 5 have a zig at the beginning of November? Look closely at the tower shadow depicted in Murdoch's graphic. You can see that there is a vertical shaft of sunlight making it through about the top fifth of the tower. This is because there is a slot cut in the top of the tower that early enough in the day allows light to pass through and reach the ground. Later in the day sunlight comes through at too steep an angle to reach the ground, being intercepted by the crescent arms of the crescent cross-section tower. As the months progress towards December and sunset gets earlier, afternoon prayer times start coming early enough that light through the slot is still reaching the ground when prayer time arrives. Thus the bottom of the top of the tower's shadow becomes the bottom of the slot, and this new lower tower height then becomes the tower height that is used to calculate prayer-time shadow length. From the tower graphics, it can be determined that this transition occurs near the beginning of November. Full analysis here.
Many of the terrorist-memorial elements of the Murdoch's design have this same half-hidden, half-obvious quality. (Litany here.) The redesign, blending the original red crescent into a larger circle of trees, but still retaining its defining points, fits this half-hidden terrorist-memorial theme exactly. I am surprised Murdoch did not blend the red crescent in from the outset. He might have gotten away with it. But we cannot let him get away with it now. Paul Murdoch's Flight 93 memorial, both originally and in its barely modified incarnation, is not just a bit of P.C. openness to Islamic symbolism. It is an explicit and thorough-going shrine to the terrorists. Murdoch is an Islamo-fascist. He is one of the enemy, trying to plant an Islamo-fascist memorial on the graves of our murdered heroes. No other explanation is possible. Please help stop this evil.
UPDATE: Thanks to so many people for stopping by. I’ll just add a bit of detail, for those who might like to look through the linked back-posts where I did my calculations, but would prefer a summary of the most critical details.
First, where are the four extra translucent blocks? You can see three of them in Figure 3, at the bottom end of the upper section of the memorial wall (the terrorist-memorial section of the memorial wall). Here is another view:
Figure 6. From the original Crescent of Embrace site-plan PDF's. Close up of gap between lower and upper memorial walls. Forty translucent blocks on left. Three on right.
The three blocks at the bottom of the terrorist memorial wall are inscribed with the date September 11th, 2001. That’s right: September 11th belongs to them.
The forty-fourth translucent block is the punch line. It sits further up the flight path. It is the large glass block, sitting at the point of the upper red-crescent tip, that dedicates the entire site:
Figure 7. Overlook extending through inner circle of crescent, with large glass block at end, dedicating the site. This graphic is from the original site-plan PDF’s, but the overlook seems to be unchanged in the new design. The announcement of the redesign includes an overlook graphic, but without a close up detail of the glass block.
LGF commenter aunursa corrects my assertion that the forty name-inscribed blocks are dedicated to forty murdered American heroes. Apparently two of the heroes were foreign. God bless ‘em.
I didn’t mean to mislead anyone by originally leaving the full explanation of the extra four translucent blocks out of this post. I was just trying to summarize my findings, while providing links to my full analyses. Far from thinking that the different shaped block at the upper crescent tip weakens the “44 deaths, 44 blocks” interpretation, my full analysis reveals the 44th block, tying the upper section of the memorial wall together with the upper tip of the large red maple crescent, to be perhaps the most diabolical feature of the entire structure: a keystone for The Keystone State. Feel free to redo my calculations . The large red maple crescent defined in the obvious way that I describe above is oriented 1.7 degrees off Mecca, enough to create plausible deniability perhaps. But when the large glass block is used to define the upper crescent tip, the crescent bisector points EXACTLY to Mecca, as close as the pixel resolution of the site-plan PDF’s can determine. (One pixel either way and the line points further away from Mecca.)
The near miss, followed by the precise Islamist resolution, is typical Murdoch, as seen with the Tower-sundial, which seems at first to be an accurate prayer-time sundial only for 8 months of the year (plausible deniability). Then you notice the slot cut in the spine of the Tower, which reduces the Tower-shadow height for the other 4 months, making for a 12 month accurate prayer-time sundial. It’s a good thing the Islamo-fascist who designed this thing is not making bombs, because he would probably be good at it.
On the subject of the Tower-sundial, there are a couple of details about my shadow calculations that people should know about if they are going to take my interpretations to heart. Shadow placement will vary with any change in either the geometry of the tower or the topography of the ground on which the Tower's shadow falls. From the information that is available, there are two points of possible deviation from my interpretation.
One is the slope of ground in the direction that the prayer-time shadows fall. On level ground, the prayer-time shadows are about 50 meters long. According to topo maps, the ground rises in the prayer-shadow direction about ten feet in fifty meters (graphics available about a third of the way down this post). The site-plan’s Tower Section detail shows the tower sitting on a built up mound ten feet tall. This would put it right where it needs to be to act as the shadow-caster (or gnomon) for an Islamic sundial: on level ground. Islamic afternoon prayers are supposed to commence when an object’s shadow is the length of its noon shadow, plus its height. This can only be determined on level ground.
The potential discrepancy here is that the Tower Section detail shows the trees in the prayer-shadow direction starting at the level of the ground at the bottom of the ten foot mound that the Tower sits on, instead of at the height of base of the Tower, as the topo maps indicate. It isn’t much of a discrepancy because the Tower Section detail is clearly in error on this point. Here is the offending graphic:
Figure 8. Shows trees in prayer-shadow direction (northeast) to grow from well below the base of Tower. Topo maps show they start at the same height as the base of the Tower, as a prayer-time sundial would require.
The second possible discrepancy is the depth of the slot cut in the spine of the Tower. The CAD generated shadow in Figure 5 shows the slot being 18% of the full tower height. This is contradicted by the Tower Section detail, which depicts the slot being 8% of the full tower height. The 18% figure leads to the jog in the prayer-shadow line depicted in my Figure 5. It is the exact depth of slot needed to keep the shadow line within the innermost crescent of trees, so that the inner crescent can serve as a consistent prayer-time indicator. Here is Figure 5 again:
Figure 5. You can see the CAD generated slot depth information in the Tower shadow.
Since the Tower Section detail was already misleading about the topography, that gives reason to favor the CAD generated slot information. Also, the CAD information is what one would expect to be the real information. It is the actual 3D design. The Tower Section detail, in contrast, is a prettied-up picture board.
My guess is that Murdoch and his co-conspirators (if he has any) realized that any competent sundialist would find them out if they put the accurate information in the Tower Section detail, so they phonied up the detail. I'm also guessing it was a slip that they let the CAD generated slot value into their presentation. Either that or hubris.
Still, there is a caveat here. It could turn out that the actual planned slot dimension is 8% of the Tower height and that the Tower array is "only" an accurate Islamic prayer-time sundial for 8 months of the year. The only way to determine for sure if the Tower-sundial is designed to be 12-month accurate is to get hold of Murdoch’s computers and take a look. The many terrorist memorializing features of Murdoch’s Flight 93 memorial give plenty of probable cause to believe that he has perpetrated a fraud against the Department of the Interior, which is legal grounds for subpoena of his hard drives. Tancredo, Norton, the ball is in your court.
Comments:
Brilliant. It's bloggers like you that are keeping America informed. The MSM are islamo-fascist as far as I'm concerned...
# posted by 
: 9:50 PM
: 9:50 PM
The very fact this designer chose translucent blocks to represent people shows that he doesn't know what he's doing. It should really be 40 eagle statues and the whole memorial could be called "A Flight of Eagles."
# posted by : 10:36 PM
: 10:36 PM
This is deeply worrying that the krypto-Islamo-fascist influence on our artistic community is so pervasive. Without erudite geometrical analysis of this calibre, the sinister subtext of the monument might have gone unnoticed.
For the record, I also favour a monument in the classical tradition, featuring large-format statuary of a heroic and avian form. I also feel there is scope, given our 21st century context, for using animatronic facilities in a tasteful but effective fashion.
For the record, I also favour a monument in the classical tradition, featuring large-format statuary of a heroic and avian form. I also feel there is scope, given our 21st century context, for using animatronic facilities in a tasteful but effective fashion.
Although I completely concur with Col's assessment of the value of this blog entry, I find his suggestion of incorporating 'animatronic facilities' rather distasteful. If dynamism is the aim then there is nothing more dynamic than the play of a breeze over the stars and stripes.
# posted by : 5:55 AM
: 5:55 AM
What I'd like to see are 40 eagle statues, weeping, while sharpening their claws with a file because yeah! They're getting ready to kick some Islamofascist ass. And maybe there can be some angels saluting, while waving American flags. Plus, I want to hear something like "Born in the USA" playing over and over again. But just the refrain, not the rest of that pinko sob story.
# posted by : 6:06 AM
: 6:06 AM
Innes, I'm slightly offended by the implication of your post. I would not sanction any sort of tawdry creation, misusing the technology of animatronics (to be honest I would prefer not to use that term, but perhaps coin a new one such as 'living statuary'). And clearly, any proper memorial must by definition place Old Glory in a central location.
I will concede that this is a controversial proposal, but the key goal is that the weak-wristed and seditious offering which is currently on the table MUST not be foisted on the American people.
For an idea of the kind of style I believe is appropriate, you need look no further than the inspirational and truly monumental creations from the Lord of the Rings series:
Heroic Example
(please note, the outstretched arms of these statues are forward pointing, and not angled upwards).
Needless to say, the subject must be the American Bald Eagle, roosting, numbering 40, and forming a protective circle, with a collonade of trees leading to a central memorial of some sort.
I will concede that this is a controversial proposal, but the key goal is that the weak-wristed and seditious offering which is currently on the table MUST not be foisted on the American people.
For an idea of the kind of style I believe is appropriate, you need look no further than the inspirational and truly monumental creations from the Lord of the Rings series:
Heroic Example
(please note, the outstretched arms of these statues are forward pointing, and not angled upwards).
Needless to say, the subject must be the American Bald Eagle, roosting, numbering 40, and forming a protective circle, with a collonade of trees leading to a central memorial of some sort.
'anonymous' - haha. Nice try, and so very satirical.
I'm sure your mother would be so proud of your attitude to the fallen of Flight 93.
I'm sure your mother would be so proud of your attitude to the fallen of Flight 93.
One last thing, 'anonymous' - your mention of 'angels waving flags' is noted as a typical attempt by (no doumbt) extreme-left liberals of your ilk to besmirch the Christian faith.
Let me tell you this: I personally do not follow any faith, but will defend my fellow men, be they Christian or Jew, or indeed Muslim of the peace-loving persuasion, against the corrosive influence of your type.
Your attempt at 'guilt by association' won't work. Nice try, though.
Let me tell you this: I personally do not follow any faith, but will defend my fellow men, be they Christian or Jew, or indeed Muslim of the peace-loving persuasion, against the corrosive influence of your type.
Your attempt at 'guilt by association' won't work. Nice try, though.
Whoa. I was just trying to express how much I hate this Islamofascist traitor left garbage. Nothing says "I honor your memory" like gaudy displays of chocky-patriotism and pseudo-religious fervor!
# posted by : 6:32 AM
: 6:32 AM
I mean, seriously, how could this not be an Islamofascist memorial? It only takes some obscure blogger with too much time on his hands to calculate out that a crescent points vaguely in a direction, and that if you have a circle with something tall in the middle, at various times, a shadow will be cast that will fall at various places. And at some of those times, Muslims are supposed to pray! Rediculous!
I propose that we not only try to get this stamped out, but that we do our best to eliminate all other Islamic sundials which cast shadows. Washington Monument, anyone? Disgusting.
I propose that we not only try to get this stamped out, but that we do our best to eliminate all other Islamic sundials which cast shadows. Washington Monument, anyone? Disgusting.
# posted by : 6:36 AM
: 6:36 AM
anonymous - Way to go, nice try equating EVERYTHING that casts a a shadow with this instance of a shadow-casting construction who's shadow DESCRIVES PERFECTLY by the location of surrounding foliage the prayer schedule of islamic worship.
Might I suggets you wake up and pull your head out of your a__.
Regards,
Col
(to the blog author, please accept apologies for profanity and "Feeding the Trolls" but sometimes you have got to administer a clue to these people)
Might I suggets you wake up and pull your head out of your a__.
Regards,
Col
(to the blog author, please accept apologies for profanity and "Feeding the Trolls" but sometimes you have got to administer a clue to these people)
Well, col, I'd understand if the memorial included those lines. But instead, the lines were drawn in. So, I could have drawn a circle, and said "when the shadow hits this imaginatory line I just drew, this is my nap time. I love it when people build monuments to my nap time."
So, we can drawn imaginatory lines around any monument! Or, anything tall and narrow! In other words, every tree, every building, is possibly an Islamic sundial. Those bastards are everywhere. Eternal vigilance is the only answer.
Plus, eagles sharpening their talons. That would be wicked sweet.
So, we can drawn imaginatory lines around any monument! Or, anything tall and narrow! In other words, every tree, every building, is possibly an Islamic sundial. Those bastards are everywhere. Eternal vigilance is the only answer.
Plus, eagles sharpening their talons. That would be wicked sweet.
# posted by : 6:49 AM
: 6:49 AM
Some free advice:
go back.
read the blog entry again.
examing the the images PROPERLY.
obtain clue.
(you may need to study basic geometry and trignometry also - figures)
Note: modern artists do NOT inject symbolism into their creations except with complete conscious deliberation.
With modern art of this type (largely the conceptual school), the symbolism is the entire justification for the artwork, to the detriment of the physical apprance of it as can be seen by the pictures and other media presentations on the memorial sight.
Please feel free to naively conclude otherwise and continue on your merry oblivious way - others will take care of the problem you can be assured.
Okay I'm out of here - somebody else can waste their time on this guy. Sheesh.
go back.
read the blog entry again.
examing the the images PROPERLY.
obtain clue.
(you may need to study basic geometry and trignometry also - figures)
Note: modern artists do NOT inject symbolism into their creations except with complete conscious deliberation.
With modern art of this type (largely the conceptual school), the symbolism is the entire justification for the artwork, to the detriment of the physical apprance of it as can be seen by the pictures and other media presentations on the memorial sight.
Please feel free to naively conclude otherwise and continue on your merry oblivious way - others will take care of the problem you can be assured.
Okay I'm out of here - somebody else can waste their time on this guy. Sheesh.
By this, I mean, of course, that a sundial is really simply something tall and narrow which will cast an unobscured shadow onto an arc surrounding the object. This memorial is described an Islamofascist sundial (which it almost certainly is, because of its conspicious lack of eagles, especially the bald kind, which doesn't mean "without hair" which would suck, but rather "white", coming from the archaic English "balde", which is like other ye olde tyme words we sometimes see on pub signs), because it marks particular times.
I suppose I could call my watch an "Islamic watch" because it does, in fact, mark times at which Muslims should pray. I could also call it a "watch" because it marks other times as well. It's an amazing coincidence that a device designed to tell time occasionally alerts me to the fact that it is a particular time that some people ascribe particular significance to.
Huh. Damn Islamo-watch. I suppose the MSM is going to cover this one up, too. No matter how many letters I write to the MSM, they refuse to cover stories like my Islamo-watch or how that dog down the block looks at me funny and is almost certainly a jihadi spy, and it's only further proof of their perfidy that they refuse to cover every possible connection I manage to tease out between the mundane and Islamofascism.
I suppose I could call my watch an "Islamic watch" because it does, in fact, mark times at which Muslims should pray. I could also call it a "watch" because it marks other times as well. It's an amazing coincidence that a device designed to tell time occasionally alerts me to the fact that it is a particular time that some people ascribe particular significance to.
Huh. Damn Islamo-watch. I suppose the MSM is going to cover this one up, too. No matter how many letters I write to the MSM, they refuse to cover stories like my Islamo-watch or how that dog down the block looks at me funny and is almost certainly a jihadi spy, and it's only further proof of their perfidy that they refuse to cover every possible connection I manage to tease out between the mundane and Islamofascism.
# posted by : 6:56 AM
: 6:56 AM
anonymous - hooray - you know the entomology of Bald Eagle. I suppose to you that is key - being superficially smart and denigrating symbolism of your own nation.
Listen to this: this memorial is a token of a terrible reckoning which is looming over our nation - I for one, while materially prepared to defend my loved ones when the time comes (mark these words - I have made the preparations any sensible person would), will be gladly happy to let you fall 'by the wayside', my friend.
You will get no more responses from me. Run along.
Listen to this: this memorial is a token of a terrible reckoning which is looming over our nation - I for one, while materially prepared to defend my loved ones when the time comes (mark these words - I have made the preparations any sensible person would), will be gladly happy to let you fall 'by the wayside', my friend.
You will get no more responses from me. Run along.
By terrible reckoning I am talking about a potential problem that might occur should we choose the wrong path.
On re-reading it did sound a tad over-wrought.
On re-reading it did sound a tad over-wrought.
Quoting anonymous
Well, col, I'd understand if the memorial included those lines. But instead, the lines were drawn in. So, I could have drawn a circle, and said "when the shadow hits this imaginatory line I just drew, this is my nap time. I love it when people build monuments to my nap time."
Actually, the point is not that there are imaginary lines, nor does someone say that any time the shadow hits, that is my nap time. The point is that the tower in the center is carefully placed to throw a shadow at specific predetermined times (consider the slot placed in the tower, useable only for prayer times in December) and is on a mound at precisely the right height. Also the focus of the crescent is precisely, NOT vaguely, in the correct direction.
It would be like a watch set to beep at precisely the right times and with a speech chip that would say "Pray now".
Well, col, I'd understand if the memorial included those lines. But instead, the lines were drawn in. So, I could have drawn a circle, and said "when the shadow hits this imaginatory line I just drew, this is my nap time. I love it when people build monuments to my nap time."
Actually, the point is not that there are imaginary lines, nor does someone say that any time the shadow hits, that is my nap time. The point is that the tower in the center is carefully placed to throw a shadow at specific predetermined times (consider the slot placed in the tower, useable only for prayer times in December) and is on a mound at precisely the right height. Also the focus of the crescent is precisely, NOT vaguely, in the correct direction.
It would be like a watch set to beep at precisely the right times and with a speech chip that would say "Pray now".
It would be like a watch set to beep at precisely the right times and with a speech chip that would say "Pray now".
That is a chilling image, but such a creation is no doubt purchasable in the souks of every middle-eastern capital.
With the face of Bin Laden nestling behind the processing hands...
That is a chilling image, but such a creation is no doubt purchasable in the souks of every middle-eastern capital.
With the face of Bin Laden nestling behind the processing hands...
Don't mean to nit-pick but this quote, "June 16th (the shortest day of the year)" is incorrect. Every day of the year has the same length. Mid-June in the northern hemisphere experiences days with more daily daylight then at any other time of the year.
# posted by : 7:30 AM
: 7:30 AM
This is so silly, do you people have nothing better to do then read a memorial as being for terrorists, get a life really. Better watch out you tin-foil hat wearing wackos the MSM has a consipiracy where they will capture you on a alien spacecraft and take you away on one of the governments black helicopters!!!
# posted by : 8:08 AM
: 8:08 AM
I would advise people not to rise to the bait - I wasted a good few minutes of my life earlier on fumigating one of these liberal goons.
Seems like you beat one off and pretty soon another 3 are springing up.
Seems like you beat one off and pretty soon another 3 are springing up.
Good discussion of the design. If you're correct in your assessment, the monument will not be built by this designer.
# posted by : 8:55 AM
: 8:55 AM
anonymous - I commend you for grasping my sturdy baton of comedy.
(I am alluding of course to a metaphorical comedic relay race)
(I am alluding of course to a metaphorical comedic relay race)
# posted by : 8:57 AM
: 8:57 AM
" Brilliant. It's bloggers like you that are keeping America informed. The MSM are islamo-fascist as far as I'm concerned..."
Not islamofascists. Dhimmi.
Not islamofascists. Dhimmi.
# posted by : 9:17 AM
: 9:17 AM
Oh, marvellous. Those islamo-fascist-crypto-communists under the beds. It doesn't get much better than this. I remember bloggers showing us clearly that the Washington Vietnam memorial was clearly an animist shrine. So nothing new here, clearly. I'm just amazed at how many sleeper muslims there are in the design world, how did that happen, should we purge our education system, eh col?
No, clearly what we want is a cohort of Balde Eagles (white hairy ones, not baldy ones), a huge cohort, four or five hundred to celebrate the thirty eight real americans who died plus the two foreigners who are granted an honorary cohort of balde eagles to guard over them. Then, for symbolism, four dirty stinking dead flattened roadkill armadillos to represent the four murdering cryto-islamic hijackers, rolling in animatronic glory in the mud for all eternity. Though I do agree that nothing is more animatronic than Old Glory rippling in the midday sun.
No, clearly what we want is a cohort of Balde Eagles (white hairy ones, not baldy ones), a huge cohort, four or five hundred to celebrate the thirty eight real americans who died plus the two foreigners who are granted an honorary cohort of balde eagles to guard over them. Then, for symbolism, four dirty stinking dead flattened roadkill armadillos to represent the four murdering cryto-islamic hijackers, rolling in animatronic glory in the mud for all eternity. Though I do agree that nothing is more animatronic than Old Glory rippling in the midday sun.
# posted by : 10:01 AM
: 10:01 AM
That is someone using my name, childishly pretending to be me, incase anyone didnt notice.
I dont find any of this funny.
I dont find any of this funny.
Laugh it up, anonymous. 'biting satire' wont prove useful in the face of the real enemies of freedom you seem so determined to ramain blind to.
That's why I like websites like this - always vigilant against the real enemies who won't be disuaded by satire. A few paragraphs and some links, and maybe a photoshopped pic or two, now, that's a whole other story. You guys seen Pajamas Media? I don't know why we don't just withdraw from Iraq now, seeing as how bloggers who uncover stories like this will not only defeat the MSM, but also the Islamofascists in one swoop, all while providing us with all the bald eagles we can eat.
# posted by : 10:29 AM
: 10:29 AM
Where is the shadow line on 9/11? Precisely on the end of the arc shaped feature show in heavy black between the tower and the first row of trees?
# posted by : 11:09 AM
: 11:09 AM
This is an elaborate joke, right?The crescent is a common shape in art and nature.
Remember when the conspiracy theorists were liberals? Times have changed.
Remember when the conspiracy theorists were liberals? Times have changed.
# posted by : 11:20 AM
: 11:20 AM
I favor leaving the memorial as a crescent, and I like the idea that it points to Mecca. I hope that all airline pilots flying over will point it out to their passengers for all time, and I sincerely hope that they also point out, and well remember, the precise course that will take them to Mecca where is kept the blood soaked idol that inspired the crime.
This is great work, and an excellent expose of the Islamofascist intentions of the design. One thing that I don't understand in general, though, is why most of the suggestions for suitable designs center around the number 40. Maya Lin's design for the Vietname Memorial has a one-to-one correspondence, yes, but it seems that memorials since then have replaced the power of symbolism with the dullness of accounting. 168 chairs here, 40 glass windows there. It's all maudlin and uninspiring. I love the idea of the eagle, symbolizing America, flight, and the bravery of the heroes on flight 93. But 40 of them? Symbolize these people and their acts of bravery with something larger than life, like their heroism itself was. Let their graves memorialize their lives individually. Let the site memorial pay tribute to the moment when they came together.
# posted by : 11:46 AM
: 11:46 AM
Very impressive and compelling analysis. I would only add that the 'tower of voices' is also clearly a minaret, the tower which every mosque has which is used to call the faithful to prayer. The 'voice' is that of the muezzin who climbs inside the minaret to the top, from which he chants the call. check out wikepedia for 'minaret': not only are they often cylindrical in form, they are also often topped with crescent-shaped corniches (like the shadow projection)and ornamented with mosaic tiles!!! And the color blue is often used to decorate mosques!From the winning entry presentation: "The outside of the curved concrete tower wall is finished with white glass mosaic tiles to create a reflective, ephemeral quality, and blue plaster inside to evoke the sky. At night, the Tower interior is evenly grazed with light and the exterior illuminated as a beacon." A beacon to prayer, no doubt!The arabic word minaret comes from the root word 'manar' which literally means 'beacon'!
# posted by : 12:41 PM
: 12:41 PM
You know what else? Minarets are often built on the ground. So is this memorial!
Frequently, Muslims breathe air. This memorial will be surrounded by air!
Many Muslims can see colors. Can you believe they used color in this memorial?
There are trees in this memorial. I don't think there are any trees in Arabland. But the trees have green leaves in the summer, and green is an evil Muslim color!
I bet people at the memorial will be quiet and solemn...like Islamofascists as they ponder their next evil deed!
Glass blocks? Glass blocks! Don't even get me started on those glass blocks. I think a Muslim once looked through a window and those are made of glass.
It's in America. Were you aware that there are Muslims in this very country as we speak?!?
What depths won't this sick designer sink to? How obvious does he need to be that literally, down to the less atom, this monument was designed to worship Allah and death and scabies and everything bad in the world???
I think there's something about what they're made of, atomic molecular bits or something, but I did poorly in chemistry. I bet it's still evil, though.
Frequently, Muslims breathe air. This memorial will be surrounded by air!
Many Muslims can see colors. Can you believe they used color in this memorial?
There are trees in this memorial. I don't think there are any trees in Arabland. But the trees have green leaves in the summer, and green is an evil Muslim color!
I bet people at the memorial will be quiet and solemn...like Islamofascists as they ponder their next evil deed!
Glass blocks? Glass blocks! Don't even get me started on those glass blocks. I think a Muslim once looked through a window and those are made of glass.
It's in America. Were you aware that there are Muslims in this very country as we speak?!?
What depths won't this sick designer sink to? How obvious does he need to be that literally, down to the less atom, this monument was designed to worship Allah and death and scabies and everything bad in the world???
I think there's something about what they're made of, atomic molecular bits or something, but I did poorly in chemistry. I bet it's still evil, though.
# posted by : 1:08 PM
: 1:08 PM
Thanks for the laugh. Next, you'll be pointing out that the blades of grass in the memorial face Mecca when the wind blows a certain way. Cursed lawn! I have to admit, though, that this is the most elaborately manufactured paranoia I've yet seen in a blog. Congrats on your creativity!
# posted by : 1:14 PM
: 1:14 PM
Posted a blog entry on this as well linking back to you. I found it originally on LGF. This is like including a Rising Sun on the Arizona Memorial and a statue of Yamamoto at Pearl Harbor.
Comments! Awesome. I have been hoping that someone would be willing to replicate my calculations and I have a suggestion for who actually SHOULD do it: those skeptics who think they can scoff at my assertions.
They should do what skeptics are supposed to do and analyze for themselves. That's what I did. I was skeptical of Murdoch's protestations of no religious intent, so I started analyzing the features of the memorial to see how explicitly religious they actually were. If the skeptics can discover any errors in my analyses I will gladly own them.
They should do what skeptics are supposed to do and analyze for themselves. That's what I did. I was skeptical of Murdoch's protestations of no religious intent, so I started analyzing the features of the memorial to see how explicitly religious they actually were. If the skeptics can discover any errors in my analyses I will gladly own them.
The problem, Rawls, is that you are engaged in numerology, not analysis. One doesn't need to debunk the debunked.
# posted by : 2:23 PM
: 2:23 PM
I tried to post a comment to the national parks folks, but everything i put in resulted in a 'security violation'. what gives? Alec, you should start an online petition or some such thing.
# posted by : 2:33 PM
: 2:33 PM
So, anything involving numbers should be dismissed as "numerology"? That would explain a lot about the "reality based community."
A petition is a good idea. I think there is hosting set up just for that. But my first step is going to be to see if I can get more information from the Park Dept.
A petition is a good idea. I think there is hosting set up just for that. But my first step is going to be to see if I can get more information from the Park Dept.
Anonymous: "The problem, Rawls, is that you are engaged in numerology, not analysis. One doesn't need to debunk the debunked."
The initial post posits that the architect is using something akin to numerology, the post does not itself "engage in numerology." Indeed, the post's argument does not rest on the "science" of numerology.
Perhaps Anonymous is innumerate? Suppose instead that the trees were arranged in lines whose groupings could be read as Morse code (e.g., 1 tree for dot, 2 in close succession for dash) and that this Morse code would then read "Allahu Akhbar." The proper response to refute the post's claim wouldn't be to scream about "numerology" or "conspiracy theories," it would be to show that either:
1) The post got Morse code wrong, or made an error in "reading" the positions of the trees in the map.
2) There were many other ways of reading the trees, which would produce nonsense, and this fact, or the length of the message relative to the amount of garbled "text" means it's likely a coicidence, and not the architect's deliberate invoking of Islamic clogans.
In my example, coincidence is quite plausible if it's "Allah" in 100 letters of garble, less plausible if it's "Alahu Akhbar" among 30 nonsense characters, not at all plausible if it's "there is no god but allah and muhammad is his prophet" with no nonsense text.
So the question is, Anonymous, can anyone show that there are errors in the post, or that the number of possible data points swamps the post's cherry-picked data? This might be done, but to my knowledge no one has done it yet. And in the absence of such an analysis on anyone's part, how can the post's "skeptics" claim that the article is self-debunking, and how can they not at least admit that their skepticism is tentative?
The initial post posits that the architect is using something akin to numerology, the post does not itself "engage in numerology." Indeed, the post's argument does not rest on the "science" of numerology.
Perhaps Anonymous is innumerate? Suppose instead that the trees were arranged in lines whose groupings could be read as Morse code (e.g., 1 tree for dot, 2 in close succession for dash) and that this Morse code would then read "Allahu Akhbar." The proper response to refute the post's claim wouldn't be to scream about "numerology" or "conspiracy theories," it would be to show that either:
1) The post got Morse code wrong, or made an error in "reading" the positions of the trees in the map.
2) There were many other ways of reading the trees, which would produce nonsense, and this fact, or the length of the message relative to the amount of garbled "text" means it's likely a coicidence, and not the architect's deliberate invoking of Islamic clogans.
In my example, coincidence is quite plausible if it's "Allah" in 100 letters of garble, less plausible if it's "Alahu Akhbar" among 30 nonsense characters, not at all plausible if it's "there is no god but allah and muhammad is his prophet" with no nonsense text.
So the question is, Anonymous, can anyone show that there are errors in the post, or that the number of possible data points swamps the post's cherry-picked data? This might be done, but to my knowledge no one has done it yet. And in the absence of such an analysis on anyone's part, how can the post's "skeptics" claim that the article is self-debunking, and how can they not at least admit that their skepticism is tentative?
I, for one, am utterly sickened at the spiritual deceit perpetrated by Architect Paul Murdoch, and I hope and pray a truly effective petition is got up.
# posted by : 5:42 PM
: 5:42 PM
just a few minutes on the architect's website will confirm that he's a bleeding heart who's fully capable of 'contributing to the human condition' and being sensitive to 'traditional cultures' in an environmentally friendly manner, of course! my guess is he figured he'd never win and took a perverse/cynical pleasure in this exercise in cultural sensitivity.
> His background and travel experience includes research of vernacular architecture in traditional cultures as well as modernism.
> PHILOSOPHY
>
> “A primary task of this generation is to create new patterns of development that sustain human habitation on this planet. Towards this end, the principles adopted for our practice are intended to ensure that each project contributes to an overall goal of environmental responsibility while striving for design excellence.
>
> As architects, we are uniquely qualified to help formulate and translate policy into tangible form; mitigating pressures of urbanity with the need to heal the natural environment. Each design solution is seen as a contribution to the human condition; as it exists today and evolves into future generations.
>
> Our goal is to define and study problems both in terms of clients’ direct needs and relative to long term effects on natural and man made surroundings. More than problem solving however, we aspire to emotionally affect and uplift our lives through poetry and beauty.
>
> It is through these transcendent qualities that we optimistically strive for ways to enrich life and fulfill our original purpose for engaging in the practice of architecture.”
> -1991
http://www.paulmurdocharchitects.com/people-paul.htm
> His background and travel experience includes research of vernacular architecture in traditional cultures as well as modernism.
> PHILOSOPHY
>
> “A primary task of this generation is to create new patterns of development that sustain human habitation on this planet. Towards this end, the principles adopted for our practice are intended to ensure that each project contributes to an overall goal of environmental responsibility while striving for design excellence.
>
> As architects, we are uniquely qualified to help formulate and translate policy into tangible form; mitigating pressures of urbanity with the need to heal the natural environment. Each design solution is seen as a contribution to the human condition; as it exists today and evolves into future generations.
>
> Our goal is to define and study problems both in terms of clients’ direct needs and relative to long term effects on natural and man made surroundings. More than problem solving however, we aspire to emotionally affect and uplift our lives through poetry and beauty.
>
> It is through these transcendent qualities that we optimistically strive for ways to enrich life and fulfill our original purpose for engaging in the practice of architecture.”
> -1991
http://www.paulmurdocharchitects.com/people-paul.htm
# posted by : 7:30 PM
: 7:30 PM
From the official website:
>"The Memorial should offer intimate experience, yet be heroic in scale.
> Its strong framework should be open to natural change
> and allow freedom of personal interpretation.
> We want to restore life here,
> to heal the land, and nourish our souls.
> In this place, a scrap yard will become a gateway
> and a strip mine will grow into a flowering meadow.
> But more than restoring health,
> the Memorial should be radiant,
> in loving memory of the passengers and crew
> who gave their lives on Flight 93."
The text from the memorial entrance:
> “May all who visit this place remember the collective acts of courage and sacrifice of the passengers and crew, revere this hallowed ground as the final resting place of those heroes, and reflect on the power of individuals who choose to make a difference.”
freedom of personal interpretation? what's that mean? after all, the hijackers were passengers too! and those four individuals who 'gave their lives' sure made a difference, didn't they? this is disgusting! this should never be built.
>"The Memorial should offer intimate experience, yet be heroic in scale.
> Its strong framework should be open to natural change
> and allow freedom of personal interpretation.
> We want to restore life here,
> to heal the land, and nourish our souls.
> In this place, a scrap yard will become a gateway
> and a strip mine will grow into a flowering meadow.
> But more than restoring health,
> the Memorial should be radiant,
> in loving memory of the passengers and crew
> who gave their lives on Flight 93."
The text from the memorial entrance:
> “May all who visit this place remember the collective acts of courage and sacrifice of the passengers and crew, revere this hallowed ground as the final resting place of those heroes, and reflect on the power of individuals who choose to make a difference.”
freedom of personal interpretation? what's that mean? after all, the hijackers were passengers too! and those four individuals who 'gave their lives' sure made a difference, didn't they? this is disgusting! this should never be built.
# posted by : 7:35 PM
: 7:35 PM
When I first heard a few months ago of the uproar over the memorial being shaped in a crescent of red trees, I thought "Man, someone's getting a little hypersensitive to things that resemble Islamic symbols." I guess this stems from thinking "Who would possibly do such an atrocious thing?"
In reading this, each point taken by itself could easily cause a "Come on now. Isn't that stretching things?" But when they just keep on coming, it becomes harder and harder to deny.
In any event, it should be a fairly easy thing to find out if these elements truly are Islamic or not. What they should do is build it exactly as planned, but on the day of its dedication when it opens, the person performing the dedication should very gravely and ceremoniously smear a fistful of pork lard on each of those four blocks that are suspected of representing the terrorists and watch what happens.
If there is truly no Islamic significance to those blocks, then there would also be no significance to smearing them with pork fat aside from it being a very odd and messy thing to do. In this case, I would generally expect a "Huh???" sort of reaction.
On the other hand, if those blocks were meant to be the terrorists, and the monument was meant to become an Islamic shrine, imagine the howls of rage such an act of desecration and defilement would cause.
And if it did provoke such a reaction, we should smear those stones and the tower with pork lard each and every day *forever* until the whole place reeks with the stench of rancid pork fat so badly that it could never be considered for use as such a shrine ever again!
In reading this, each point taken by itself could easily cause a "Come on now. Isn't that stretching things?" But when they just keep on coming, it becomes harder and harder to deny.
In any event, it should be a fairly easy thing to find out if these elements truly are Islamic or not. What they should do is build it exactly as planned, but on the day of its dedication when it opens, the person performing the dedication should very gravely and ceremoniously smear a fistful of pork lard on each of those four blocks that are suspected of representing the terrorists and watch what happens.
If there is truly no Islamic significance to those blocks, then there would also be no significance to smearing them with pork fat aside from it being a very odd and messy thing to do. In this case, I would generally expect a "Huh???" sort of reaction.
On the other hand, if those blocks were meant to be the terrorists, and the monument was meant to become an Islamic shrine, imagine the howls of rage such an act of desecration and defilement would cause.
And if it did provoke such a reaction, we should smear those stones and the tower with pork lard each and every day *forever* until the whole place reeks with the stench of rancid pork fat so badly that it could never be considered for use as such a shrine ever again!
# posted by : 8:38 PM
: 8:38 PM
A most demoralizing thing is starting out a conversation thinking arguments matter -- and then realizing you’re the only one who thinks so.
Don't believe me? Read the Anonymous drivel above.
Don't believe me? Read the Anonymous drivel above.
I like this memorial better. It's an old-fashioned, highly symbolized memorial to inspire hatred of the murderous enemy and love and patriotism for the US.
Frame the site in lines of trees forming a square aligned to the cardinal directions. Four flagstone-paved roads lead in/out from the square, making it a crossroads and a meeting place. Each road must be absolutely straight and flat to within an inch for at least a mile leading out from the site, no matter what hills must be cut through or chasms bridged over, to symbolize that nothing will stop America as she pursues and ends this murderous ideology.
At each entrance, on a triumphal, black granite arch that spans the road, place a large, realistically carved black granite statue of an eagle eating a crying, bawling, whimpering, humiliated hijacker's liver as a terrorist leader kneels prostrate before the eagle, forehead on the ground, with the eagle's claw on his neck, and begs for mercy. OBL, big Z and little Z, and Khomeini would make excellent terrorist leaders for this part of the memorial. Each hijacker would get their own shameful statue. Title each arch "The Wages of Terror are Paid in Hell's Coin." Engrave a bas-relief of Columbia on one of the sides and one of four female figures (Virgin Mary, Athena, Lady Liberty, Victoria) on the other. Once through the arch, the suffering of the terrorists in hell is hidden behind a flat surface. Engrave one word on the inside face of each of the arches, "Heroes", "Rest", "In", "Peace."
Inside, arrange 40 pure white marble holy symbols (crosses for Christians, ankhs for new-agers, stars of david for jews, busts of darwin for atheists, question marks for agnostics, even crescent and stars if there were moslems among the heroes) with appropriate hagiographical text for each hero on the flight. Posthumously induct all forty heroes in the US Army and award them the US Army Medal of Honor. At the center of each holy symbol, embedded in clear, unbreakable resin, place the medal. Shelter each holy symbol beneath the branches of a sturdy oak tree.
Summing up, an old fashioned memorial to inspire the struggle against the most evil and old fashioned of all possible enemies.
Frame the site in lines of trees forming a square aligned to the cardinal directions. Four flagstone-paved roads lead in/out from the square, making it a crossroads and a meeting place. Each road must be absolutely straight and flat to within an inch for at least a mile leading out from the site, no matter what hills must be cut through or chasms bridged over, to symbolize that nothing will stop America as she pursues and ends this murderous ideology.
At each entrance, on a triumphal, black granite arch that spans the road, place a large, realistically carved black granite statue of an eagle eating a crying, bawling, whimpering, humiliated hijacker's liver as a terrorist leader kneels prostrate before the eagle, forehead on the ground, with the eagle's claw on his neck, and begs for mercy. OBL, big Z and little Z, and Khomeini would make excellent terrorist leaders for this part of the memorial. Each hijacker would get their own shameful statue. Title each arch "The Wages of Terror are Paid in Hell's Coin." Engrave a bas-relief of Columbia on one of the sides and one of four female figures (Virgin Mary, Athena, Lady Liberty, Victoria) on the other. Once through the arch, the suffering of the terrorists in hell is hidden behind a flat surface. Engrave one word on the inside face of each of the arches, "Heroes", "Rest", "In", "Peace."
Inside, arrange 40 pure white marble holy symbols (crosses for Christians, ankhs for new-agers, stars of david for jews, busts of darwin for atheists, question marks for agnostics, even crescent and stars if there were moslems among the heroes) with appropriate hagiographical text for each hero on the flight. Posthumously induct all forty heroes in the US Army and award them the US Army Medal of Honor. At the center of each holy symbol, embedded in clear, unbreakable resin, place the medal. Shelter each holy symbol beneath the branches of a sturdy oak tree.
Summing up, an old fashioned memorial to inspire the struggle against the most evil and old fashioned of all possible enemies.
It looks like a place OBL would be comfortable at, right down to the dunelike terracing in the perspective rendering.
I would like to disbelieve, because it is appalling to me that such a thing could be done consciously--tar and feathers, or skinning and salt, come to mind for such a one--unless conceivably there were some artistic element that would indelibly transgress or transcend the Islamic nature of the place.
It is shocking to say so, but how is this not how "the terrorists will have won?" As best as this wack but admittedly talented architect can offer, this is a victory, a monument indeed.
This one, though, is to the slaughterers and their slain, not the reverse. Why not just add a mosque with a parking lot mosaiced into the world's largest American flag? Anonymous would say that's really patriotic, no doubt.
Let the colors of the killers' glass block be obsidian, or better yet, lumps of ash. The entire shadow clock effect could be subverted by intruding a large object between the sundial and the sun.
Say, park a 757 on a nice, oh, Grecian or Renaissance style pedestal behind it at the right height to spoil the effect entirely. (Maybe pitched and rolled to add height if necessary - but pointing up, not down.)
With a visitors' area consiting of another life-size interior of the plane, showing passengers' seats and terrorists' seats and the cockpit, service cart, etc.
Maybe show effects of the dead, such as photos, crosses, teddy bears, maybe the terrorists' IDs or suchlike if found, in a separate display: on the way out, or in a Knowledge Center with documentation of the crime, videos of the Twin Towers and so forth playing continuously, or intermingled with survivors' videos, addresses from the President and so forth.
Let the one airframe point exactly towards the Pentagon and the other towards the WTC. Other elements orient from the relevant airports, perhaps, or to the countries of the killers' origins.
If you want a statue, have one of a control yoke, with two sets of hands struggling for control of it.
With the epitaph:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Or something like that, preferably by an American ;>
THAT is the meaning of Flight 93: not that we won. We fought. We weren't all bamboozled into going along with the comic-book thugs who took advantage of our hospitality (I wonder if they ever ate any salt while they were here) and our naive, civilized expectations of being taken to an airport to be bickered over. We learned our destiny, and we rose to change it.
T suppose alternatively the full-sized exterior could be angled steeply into the position of the Islamic star in the crescent.
...But what I meant to propose, Anonymous, is a Gedankenexperiment. Since you are of course smarter and wiser than everyone here, use your considerable brains to refute this hypothesis. If you can find one good reason why this is NOT suited as an Islamic prayer site (say, wild pigs live in the area), we will relievedly be proved wrong.
If you can't, we'll know how hard you tried and we can be really sure of our hypothesis, so we're counting on you. After all, nobody wants to think this is a place for Zarqawi to visit on a victory tour. But I'm afraid some of us do.
I would like to disbelieve, because it is appalling to me that such a thing could be done consciously--tar and feathers, or skinning and salt, come to mind for such a one--unless conceivably there were some artistic element that would indelibly transgress or transcend the Islamic nature of the place.
It is shocking to say so, but how is this not how "the terrorists will have won?" As best as this wack but admittedly talented architect can offer, this is a victory, a monument indeed.
This one, though, is to the slaughterers and their slain, not the reverse. Why not just add a mosque with a parking lot mosaiced into the world's largest American flag? Anonymous would say that's really patriotic, no doubt.
Let the colors of the killers' glass block be obsidian, or better yet, lumps of ash. The entire shadow clock effect could be subverted by intruding a large object between the sundial and the sun.
Say, park a 757 on a nice, oh, Grecian or Renaissance style pedestal behind it at the right height to spoil the effect entirely. (Maybe pitched and rolled to add height if necessary - but pointing up, not down.)
With a visitors' area consiting of another life-size interior of the plane, showing passengers' seats and terrorists' seats and the cockpit, service cart, etc.
Maybe show effects of the dead, such as photos, crosses, teddy bears, maybe the terrorists' IDs or suchlike if found, in a separate display: on the way out, or in a Knowledge Center with documentation of the crime, videos of the Twin Towers and so forth playing continuously, or intermingled with survivors' videos, addresses from the President and so forth.
Let the one airframe point exactly towards the Pentagon and the other towards the WTC. Other elements orient from the relevant airports, perhaps, or to the countries of the killers' origins.
If you want a statue, have one of a control yoke, with two sets of hands struggling for control of it.
With the epitaph:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Or something like that, preferably by an American ;>
THAT is the meaning of Flight 93: not that we won. We fought. We weren't all bamboozled into going along with the comic-book thugs who took advantage of our hospitality (I wonder if they ever ate any salt while they were here) and our naive, civilized expectations of being taken to an airport to be bickered over. We learned our destiny, and we rose to change it.
T suppose alternatively the full-sized exterior could be angled steeply into the position of the Islamic star in the crescent.
...But what I meant to propose, Anonymous, is a Gedankenexperiment. Since you are of course smarter and wiser than everyone here, use your considerable brains to refute this hypothesis. If you can find one good reason why this is NOT suited as an Islamic prayer site (say, wild pigs live in the area), we will relievedly be proved wrong.
If you can't, we'll know how hard you tried and we can be really sure of our hypothesis, so we're counting on you. After all, nobody wants to think this is a place for Zarqawi to visit on a victory tour. But I'm afraid some of us do.
Pangloss, I like yours too. Especially the eating of livers, how truly multicultural of you! May I only remind you that the J in all forms of "Jew" is most properly capitalized rather than in lower case.
I don't mean to be hypersensitive, however. In fact, as an alternative, you could have a depiction of the killers and their masters in about the tenth and eleventh circles of Hell if you like. (Or is that where the livers are? ;>)
Alternately, show them in an Islamic hell, e.g., with their stomachs roasting or being drenched in molten metal or whatever the Koran says happens to the worst people when they die. Let that be all sensitive and properly 'aligned.' Prayers for repentance and loss and apology can be inscribed here in Arabic for the faithful, with nice digital clocks to tell them the times to come and grovel. This could be arranged in the form of "Geneva-compliant" prison cells
In fact, if we ever find, try, convict and execute any ringleaders, that could be where they spend the remainder of their sentence before we take them out and shoot them (or drop them off the minaret, or stone them or something suitable, unless you prefer my idea of having them eaten by sharks). Virgins among them could be raped before death, after all, we want to honor their customs.
Then they could be fed into surplus Iraqi plastic shredders and fed to pigs or something.
One other idea, for the trees, plant forty for us in maple planted in the good clean earth, four for them in date palms or something. Rooted in beds of salt.
Wow, hostile. A rough day at work. But there is not much in this to be pleased about. The back of my hand to the miscreant who designed this. Maybe he thinks they'll kill him last.
I don't mean to be hypersensitive, however. In fact, as an alternative, you could have a depiction of the killers and their masters in about the tenth and eleventh circles of Hell if you like. (Or is that where the livers are? ;>)
Alternately, show them in an Islamic hell, e.g., with their stomachs roasting or being drenched in molten metal or whatever the Koran says happens to the worst people when they die. Let that be all sensitive and properly 'aligned.' Prayers for repentance and loss and apology can be inscribed here in Arabic for the faithful, with nice digital clocks to tell them the times to come and grovel. This could be arranged in the form of "Geneva-compliant" prison cells
In fact, if we ever find, try, convict and execute any ringleaders, that could be where they spend the remainder of their sentence before we take them out and shoot them (or drop them off the minaret, or stone them or something suitable, unless you prefer my idea of having them eaten by sharks). Virgins among them could be raped before death, after all, we want to honor their customs.
Then they could be fed into surplus Iraqi plastic shredders and fed to pigs or something.
One other idea, for the trees, plant forty for us in maple planted in the good clean earth, four for them in date palms or something. Rooted in beds of salt.
Wow, hostile. A rough day at work. But there is not much in this to be pleased about. The back of my hand to the miscreant who designed this. Maybe he thinks they'll kill him last.
Let them build the memorial that way, but add a few additions:
Erect a series of Christian crosses alternated with large stars of David along with an earlier commenters suggestion for gold American Bald Eagles.
But also: Sanctify the site before and after construction with PIG'S BLOOD.
Erect a series of Christian crosses alternated with large stars of David along with an earlier commenters suggestion for gold American Bald Eagles.
But also: Sanctify the site before and after construction with PIG'S BLOOD.
It seems to me that the hijackers found their way onto flight 93 because of lax security practices. Why were they lax? Because "everyone" felt that "no one" would ever use a plane full of innocent passengers as a tool of terrorism. Prior to 9/11 if you had suggested even half of the security measures we see today there would be a howl of anger from the "open minded", who would claim "Geesh! You're overreacting...".
My point is that what we are dealing with here are people who do not subscribe to our sensibilities and who thrive and feed on every opportunity to "stick it to us" as proof that their god is always working behind the scenes to validate their insanity.
I say, remove anything that might suggest an islamic sense and make the memorial a good old monument to the American spirit and the courage of the forty passengers.
My point is that what we are dealing with here are people who do not subscribe to our sensibilities and who thrive and feed on every opportunity to "stick it to us" as proof that their god is always working behind the scenes to validate their insanity.
I say, remove anything that might suggest an islamic sense and make the memorial a good old monument to the American spirit and the courage of the forty passengers.
Ok, here's my point about the shadows:
What you did was draw a line where the shadow falls at a certain time of day, and then said "because the shadow falls on this line which I just drew, this was clearly designed for the purpose of casting a shadow on this line".
Now, if you had been able to demonstrate that the designers planetd a row of trees, and that your line someone corresponded to the exact center of each tree, or the tip of its fifth root from the right, or whatever, then maybe, just maybe, there might be some truth to your insane ranting, but probably not.
Please take note of your cute little "calculations" drawn on that picture. What does your pink line correspond to? It passes through some trees. It's not at the edge of the trees, it's not at the center, and it doesn't follow the arc. It inscribes, instead, an arc even larger and centered elsewhere than the circle of trees around the tower.
I could, if I wanted, figure out where the shadow fell at 11:11 am every day, draw a circle connecting those points, and then claim that this is really a memorial to the end of the First World War, because look! The shadow matches the line I just drew. It doesn't matter, apparently, if that line corresponds to anything at all.
The real clincher is, I think, the fact that you had to give your little circle a zig at the end. That little zig, that little bit of an arc, corresponds even less to the arc created by the trees. That doesn't seem to stop you, though. You must have gotten to that point and realized that your little theory was flawed. Wait, no! You got to that point, saw it didn't fit the pattern, drew a new, totally arbitrary line, and though "well, close enough!"
As I said, maybe, maybe, maybe if the arc followed the tree line in some regular, discernable manner, this would be remotely plausible. But it doesn't. Your arc might as well be anywhere.
Wait, what am I talking about???? Holy flying fuck, someone built a memorial, and put some trees around it, so that at certain times of day, the tower casts a shadow that will fall somewhere in the trees, and Muslims will use their Islamovision to be able to tell, magically, that the shadow has reached a line in the trees, despite the fact that the trees should obscure and distort the length of the shadow (that is, once the shadow reaches the tree line, no one will be able to tell when it hits your pink line). Perfidy!
What you did was draw a line where the shadow falls at a certain time of day, and then said "because the shadow falls on this line which I just drew, this was clearly designed for the purpose of casting a shadow on this line".
Now, if you had been able to demonstrate that the designers planetd a row of trees, and that your line someone corresponded to the exact center of each tree, or the tip of its fifth root from the right, or whatever, then maybe, just maybe, there might be some truth to your insane ranting, but probably not.
Please take note of your cute little "calculations" drawn on that picture. What does your pink line correspond to? It passes through some trees. It's not at the edge of the trees, it's not at the center, and it doesn't follow the arc. It inscribes, instead, an arc even larger and centered elsewhere than the circle of trees around the tower.
I could, if I wanted, figure out where the shadow fell at 11:11 am every day, draw a circle connecting those points, and then claim that this is really a memorial to the end of the First World War, because look! The shadow matches the line I just drew. It doesn't matter, apparently, if that line corresponds to anything at all.
The real clincher is, I think, the fact that you had to give your little circle a zig at the end. That little zig, that little bit of an arc, corresponds even less to the arc created by the trees. That doesn't seem to stop you, though. You must have gotten to that point and realized that your little theory was flawed. Wait, no! You got to that point, saw it didn't fit the pattern, drew a new, totally arbitrary line, and though "well, close enough!"
As I said, maybe, maybe, maybe if the arc followed the tree line in some regular, discernable manner, this would be remotely plausible. But it doesn't. Your arc might as well be anywhere.
Wait, what am I talking about???? Holy flying fuck, someone built a memorial, and put some trees around it, so that at certain times of day, the tower casts a shadow that will fall somewhere in the trees, and Muslims will use their Islamovision to be able to tell, magically, that the shadow has reached a line in the trees, despite the fact that the trees should obscure and distort the length of the shadow (that is, once the shadow reaches the tree line, no one will be able to tell when it hits your pink line). Perfidy!
# posted by : 6:22 AM
: 6:22 AM
But, on a serious note, I made some toast this morning and I'm pretty sure it says "Stealers Suck" under a picture of Saddam Hussein. Pittsburg? Let's Roll.
# posted by : 6:25 AM
: 6:25 AM
Hey Alec!
I found your website through LGF, my favorite source for learning about the evils of Muslims and the Mus-Com conspiracy. I totally agree with your analysis of the memorial site. Disgusting! I hope you do put together that petition. That's the magic of the blogosphere - citizen power!
I wanted to talk to you also about some calculations I did that prove that time is Cubical.
When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 - major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth - known as Midday and Midnight. Where the 2 major Time forces join, synergy creates 2 new minorTime points we recognize as Sunup and Sundown.
The 4-equidistant Time points can be considered as Time Square imprinted upon the circle of Earth. In a single rotation of the Earth sphere, each Time corner point rotates through the other 3-corner Time points, thus creating 16 corners, 96 hours and 4-simultaneous 24 hour Days within a single rotation of Earth - equated to a Higher Order of Life Time Cube. Ignorance of the Time Cube is evil.
These 4 absolute simultaneous days PROVES the 1 day god, 1day academia, 1 day religion and the 1 day media to be erroneous, fictitious and evil lies. Education equates to a mass icepick lobotomy - destroying the mind's ability to think as opposites.
All 4/24 hour days occur within 1 Earth rotation. You educated stupid word animals can't fathom this greatest social and scientific math of creation.
God claimed to have created a single day rotation of Earth. I have created simultaneous
4 day rotation of Earth. Why do you worship such a stupid God? Do you really believe that your Jew God screwed a hole in the ground to create Adam and Eve out of dirt, at the same time that woman existed in the nation of NOD, Nation of Damsels from where Cain got wife? Adam and Eve were created at the same time, but sexless. A rib was removed from eve and a hole left to make a woman of her. The rib was stuck on Adam to make a man of him - and Eve is still trying to get her rib back.
Make sense? I thought you'd appreciate this, because you obviously have a sharp enough mind to comprehend the TRUTH OF THE TIME CUBE if you were able to figure out this garbage stupid Mus-Com conspiracy.
I found your website through LGF, my favorite source for learning about the evils of Muslims and the Mus-Com conspiracy. I totally agree with your analysis of the memorial site. Disgusting! I hope you do put together that petition. That's the magic of the blogosphere - citizen power!
I wanted to talk to you also about some calculations I did that prove that time is Cubical.
When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 - major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth - known as Midday and Midnight. Where the 2 major Time forces join, synergy creates 2 new minorTime points we recognize as Sunup and Sundown.
The 4-equidistant Time points can be considered as Time Square imprinted upon the circle of Earth. In a single rotation of the Earth sphere, each Time corner point rotates through the other 3-corner Time points, thus creating 16 corners, 96 hours and 4-simultaneous 24 hour Days within a single rotation of Earth - equated to a Higher Order of Life Time Cube. Ignorance of the Time Cube is evil.
These 4 absolute simultaneous days PROVES the 1 day god, 1day academia, 1 day religion and the 1 day media to be erroneous, fictitious and evil lies. Education equates to a mass icepick lobotomy - destroying the mind's ability to think as opposites.
All 4/24 hour days occur within 1 Earth rotation. You educated stupid word animals can't fathom this greatest social and scientific math of creation.
God claimed to have created a single day rotation of Earth. I have created simultaneous
4 day rotation of Earth. Why do you worship such a stupid God? Do you really believe that your Jew God screwed a hole in the ground to create Adam and Eve out of dirt, at the same time that woman existed in the nation of NOD, Nation of Damsels from where Cain got wife? Adam and Eve were created at the same time, but sexless. A rib was removed from eve and a hole left to make a woman of her. The rib was stuck on Adam to make a man of him - and Eve is still trying to get her rib back.
Make sense? I thought you'd appreciate this, because you obviously have a sharp enough mind to comprehend the TRUTH OF THE TIME CUBE if you were able to figure out this garbage stupid Mus-Com conspiracy.
Hmm. the more I think about this, and read the comments most recently made about the arbitrariness of the various imaginary lines drawn to 'prove' the islamic conspiracy case, the less I buy it.
Move me to the 'it's a lot of paranoid conspiracy theorising nonsense' column.
Move me to the 'it's a lot of paranoid conspiracy theorising nonsense' column.
I am still in favour of huge animated granite eagles with frickin laser beams for eyes, though. Dont get me wrong.
Picture if you will a circle of huge roosting eagles, sternly hewn from slabs of dark granite. their heavy brooding forms sillhouetted against the low sun...
You enter the darkling grove and beneath glowering, slatey winter clouds, approach the central dias, place your hand upon the dimly glowing star...
The eagles turn their heads as one, in a cacophony of groaning stone, directing their now-glowing red eyes upon your puny form...
The soundtrack from the film Patton (staccato horns echoing as though across the barren plains of north africa) blares bleakly across the scene, seque-ing neatly into a booming rendition of the star spangled banner.
The music dies, and the eagles resume their eternal watch. You depart the scene, your minds thoughts freighted with the deep significance of the experience, and shit...
You enter the darkling grove and beneath glowering, slatey winter clouds, approach the central dias, place your hand upon the dimly glowing star...
The eagles turn their heads as one, in a cacophony of groaning stone, directing their now-glowing red eyes upon your puny form...
The soundtrack from the film Patton (staccato horns echoing as though across the barren plains of north africa) blares bleakly across the scene, seque-ing neatly into a booming rendition of the star spangled banner.
The music dies, and the eagles resume their eternal watch. You depart the scene, your minds thoughts freighted with the deep significance of the experience, and shit...
Now we're talking. But why can't we have angels waving American flags? And why can't the eagles be weeping? And sharpening their talons? Also, there should be some statues of Bush and Reagan beating up Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, who will be portrayed as wearing frilly little dresses. And then another statue of some soldiers fighting off hoards of Islamofascists armed with scimitars, coming to chop off our heads because THEY HATE OUR FREEDOM, and Jesus can be passing them extra magazines.
I like the Patton music idea. But I still think we need the refrain (JUST THE REFRAIN!) from "Born in the USA" playing in the background.
I also really like the glowing eyes part. The question is - are they glowing because of their fiery love for freedom? Or their fiery hatred of Muslims?
Eh, same difference I guess.
I like the Patton music idea. But I still think we need the refrain (JUST THE REFRAIN!) from "Born in the USA" playing in the background.
I also really like the glowing eyes part. The question is - are they glowing because of their fiery love for freedom? Or their fiery hatred of Muslims?
Eh, same difference I guess.
# posted by : 7:57 AM
: 7:57 AM
I would like to see a design containing 3 symbols. The first would be a 5 sided figure to commemorate those who died at the Pentagon. The second would be two monoliths symbolizing those who died at the WTC. The third would be a monolithic structure in the shape of a human middle finger, symbolizing what the great folks of Flight 93 esentially said to the hijackers, and what we as a country shoud continue saying: F--- YOU!
It both commemorates and inspires, as all good memorials shoudl do. 5-2-1
Karl
It both commemorates and inspires, as all good memorials shoudl do. 5-2-1
Karl
# posted by : 8:00 AM
: 8:00 AM
(the roiling magmatic light emanating from the eyes of the eagles symbolises the watchfulness and furious brooding anger that America can bring to bear upon its enemies at a moment's notice)
HTH
HTH
The first would be a 5 sided figure to commemorate those who died at the Pentagon.
This has its merits - please note however, the idea would need a delicate treatment, given that the islamic artistic tradition eschews the figurative and focusses instead upon geometric forms.
This could be a minefield, frankly.
This has its merits - please note however, the idea would need a delicate treatment, given that the islamic artistic tradition eschews the figurative and focusses instead upon geometric forms.
This could be a minefield, frankly.
I agree the design is an abomination. But I am skeptical about the claim about 40 + 4 blocks that you have made. The pics of the design are anything but ambiguous.
First, how did you conclude there are 40 blocks on the left side of the wall? The figure does not unambiguously show that. For that matter, how do we know they are glass blocks? Is there a detail view available or a statement about the design that there are forty blocks/segments?
Second, where is the statement from or picture of the large glass block at the end of the path? (evidence from the current or original design would be acceptable to me, since the original has been changed so little.)
First, how did you conclude there are 40 blocks on the left side of the wall? The figure does not unambiguously show that. For that matter, how do we know they are glass blocks? Is there a detail view available or a statement about the design that there are forty blocks/segments?
Second, where is the statement from or picture of the large glass block at the end of the path? (evidence from the current or original design would be acceptable to me, since the original has been changed so little.)
# posted by : 7:24 PM
: 7:24 PM
All of the information on the 44 blocks is in the original Crescent of Embrace PDFs, still available here. The first PDF page says how the lower part of the memorial wall contains forty translucent blocks inscribed with the names of the forty murdered heroes and innocents. This is why the number is a big deal. The blocks are explictly one for each life. You can see the three blocks on the upper section of memorial wall in the snippet of graphic that I have posted in my UPDATE (taken from the first PDF page). I call this section of the wall the terrorist memorial wall, because it is precisely centered on the red maple crescent, placing it in the position of the star on an Islamic flag. The last block is the large glass block at the so called "Entry Portal." I have it posted in my UPDATE and it is also on the Portal page of the PDF. This block sits at the upper tip of the large red crescent. It further ties the terrorist memorial part of the wall to large crescent (the 4th extra block is for the 4th terrorist, according to symbolism of blocks for lives). But to see the full importance of this last block, you have to read my full analysis. It orients the whole structure PRECISELY on Mecca.
I'm glad you're interested. I hope your skepticism makes you want to verify my assertions for yourself.
I'm glad you're interested. I hope your skepticism makes you want to verify my assertions for yourself.